All About Alcohol-Free Living and Human Design

I love this episode with my co-host Lauren! Are you a fan of alcohol-free living, do you know what it means to live alcohol-free? Today that’s what we explore, alongside an insider’s view of human design.

You can learn more about Lauren here and then be on the look for our next episode, next month!

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Lane: Welcome back and that’s right. You’re here again. Another episode, this episode is human design. Do you know anything about human design? I don’t really, I just know it’s one of these things that people are really into today. I’m joined by one of my gal pals, and I hope you enjoy this conversation. I want to make sure that you know why I’ve created it All About Alcohol-Free Living and Human Design

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Lauren: It’s so funny too because it’s like the more I get into meditation and grounding and all the metastatic metaphysical and moose stuff. It’s like, I can very clearly feel in body out of body. I can feel like they coming back into my body. It is a very interesting experience. So I was out of body for a little bit there.

Lane: Don’t you love her already? I told you this is an amazing episode. Get ready for it.

Lauren: Hey, it’s Lauren and you’re listening to The Connected Calm Life podcast.

Lane: Yes, Lauren. So good to be with you today. It’s been a long time coming. Thank you for joining. Yeah, I met Lauren through Rebecca. Who his episode cut?

She’s early on early first 10 episodes. And then I got to connect with Lauren and we’re in season three now in a new year. I don’t know it’s I don’t even know what they say. Right. I don’t even know where time is going. Is time even relevant anymore? It’s crazy. It’s really crazy. How are you?

Lauren: I am good. As I was sharing before we hopped on. The new year has started school has started virtually for one of my kids and it’s just a cacophony of chaos happening downstairs. So I am going to do my best. I did a little connection beforehand to just try to. Concise to be clear, to have whatever is helpful and relevant flow through me. So let’s go, here we go.

Lane: And it will, it will I trust this process 100%. So you, I just gonna cut to the chase and you identify as alcohol-free. Yes.

Lauren: Yes. Two years January 1st was two years without a drink.

Lane: So I just had to take a breath.

I love this idea of being like identifying as alcohol-free like, this was not my not even on my radar, not the vocabulary. Wasn’t in the ethers of life. 25 years ago, I just celebrated 25 years of being alcohol, alcohol-free. And. How did you, like, how did this even appear to you?

Lauren: So I have had a very interesting relationship with alcohol, as I would say.

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I don’t know, most people, a lot of people do and I. Definitely have alcoholism in my family, I would say functional alcoholism. And one of the reasons I like to make that distinction is because I think that as a society, many of us have this very specific. Dry dramatic movie definition of what it is to be an alcoholic.

And that was not the experience in my family. It was get up every day, go to work every day, never saw you drunk, really never re you know, affected in quotes anything. However, there was a strong dependency on alcohol. It was required for daily living. So that was something that I grew up not really ever knowing any different and not really knowing that that was an issue or a problem.

And so I did all the regular thing. I started drinking in high school cause it was fun and it was cool. And then. Certain experiences where I had way too much and thank God by the grace of God made it through that and went on to college and did all the regular partying and that stuff. And then. Was never what I would call a huge drinker.

You know, post-college a few days a week, a few glasses of wine, a cocktail here and there, and then slowly, it just really started to not feel good. It went down to, you know, the first thing was that I would say, I really didn’t feel. I would feel guilty. I would feel regret. I would wake up. Why did I drink so much?

I don’t feel good. What did I say? What did I do? And still thought that was totally normal because everybody around me was doing the same thing, but it was the way that it just started to affect me. So I started cutting out weekday drinking and I would, okay. I’m only going to drink on Friday and Saturday.

And then that led to just one day and that led to just one drink. And then finally it was like, why, why am I doing this? I don’t like it. It doesn’t feel good. And so I participated in dry you air. You know, dry January for a few years. And it just so happened that in 2020, there was like another group challenge that some friends were doing, which led into the middle of March.

And at that point, it had been out of my system for two and a half months when COVID came. And thank goodness, because as everybody I knew just started drinking. Literally nonstop. I had kind of made that switch already. And so I feel like two years of not drinking during COVID maybe like dog years.

Lane: Like, does that count for like fascinating to me to think about like, just getting to that place of, oh, I’m just going to try it on during the week or then I’m just gonna try it out on the weekends and I’m just going to have one and then just saying I’m going to be done. Like that, for me, it doesn’t, it doesn’t calculate, it doesn’t track.

It doesn’t track because I tried, I kind of label myself as a periodic drinker. So I would binge really hard and then I would clean it. And I wouldn’t drink, it would be fine for like three months or six months. And then I would get right back on the saddle and like, I don’t even know what happened. I would forget everything.

And then I would, you know, oh, I I’m on a claim. Right, right. Cause the cleanses are super easy to do. And I just, I need to get that alcohol out. I would go to this place in Malibu and just like lay and pray. Like this is too much for me. And I love hearing this kind of, it’s like an easy transformation. It sounds like that’s what I’m like, how is this possible?

But it’s possible because you are two years into this journey. Talking about it. And I know that there are so many other women out there who are choosing this alcohol-free life. And for somebody like me, it’s not a choice for me. It’s something that I had to give up. I didn’t make the choice to give it like it.All About Alcohol-Free Living and Human Design

So it’s, I’m just. Like it tickles my brain and it’s like, I’m fascinated with it. So since you’ve been alcohol-free, what have you noticed?

Lauren: And I really, I definitely want to emphasize why I came to alcohol-free because I feel like the word sober or sober, curious, I feel like there are people and I don’t put myself in the category of people that have.

An addiction. That is a hard-earned word too, to have that badge of being sober, that, that badge of I am in recovery from something. And so that to me is the distinction of, alcohol-free just like, I’m, gluten-free just like I’m dairy free. You know, that to me is what it is, that it is a lifestyle choice.

But knowing that alcoholism runs in my family, three generations in a row, I felt more. Inclined to break that cycle. And I, and I felt, especially as I see this mommy drinking culture that we might talk about that I just wanted to offer my children. An alternative perspective. You know, there’s so much drinking that happens in, in, in religion, in social settings and all kinds of different groups and friends and fun.

And it is, it’s a fun thing. Like I know lots of people who can have a drink or not have a drink who can have one glass of wine a day and never think about it. It was taking up a lot of my mental space. When am I going to drink? How much am I going to drink? Is today going to be a drink? What will I feel like tomorrow? All About Alcohol-Free Living and Human Design

But it, and so that was like another point of how much time am I going to give this thing? This is like, you’re just a liquid what’s going on? So yeah, for me, it was that gradual journey. But I also think in general, I’m more of a moderator versus an abstainer to use. I can not think of her name at the time, but the happiness projects her, the four tendencies author Rubin, Gretchen Rubin.

Thank you. So it’s like if you tell me I can’t have something that is worse than if you tell me okay. For chocolate, for example, or sweets, I can have a house full of sweets and I’m okay with that. I could have five M and Ms. I don’t know. That’s just the way that I work. All About Alcohol-Free Living and Human Design A lot of other people can’t do it.

Lane: No, you’re just like, you’re not an addict. Like that is like, from this perspective over here, like an addict, you can’t turn that off. Like we are, I’m wired differently than you.

Lauren: Right. It’s funny because I have been concerned about being an addict. All my. All my life. I have felt like I have an addictive personality in terms of like, I want this, I want this.

I could think about things, but I, but you’re right. It is, it is different. And so I’m blessed that that has not of all the things that didn’t pass over. Right. Right.

Lane: So does your partner, do they drink?

Lauren: No, he will drink. And he has, you know, he did all the drinking, but that is another really important thing that I share with my friends and people who ask. All About Alcohol-Free Living and Human Design

If he was the person who every day came home from work and had a cocktail or opened a bottle of wine, that would be more challenging for me. Of course, it would be because it would be right in front of my face. I think I can go out now and everybody could be doing it. All About Alcohol-Free Living and Human Design, I don’t even think about it, but I feel like at the beginning, that would have been hard until I got my really strong foundation of knowing how good I feel.

And I think that was the question you asked me originally about too. I noticed a difference.

Sorry. It’s like manifesting generator, Sagittarius, add brain. Yes. I feel less inflammation and less belly pain. I feel like, you know, just in general, even though it doesn’t sound like I’m that clear right now, I do feel more clear. I feel like I have more brain space. I have, I think about other things I. I see things more clearly when I’m out with people that are drinking, it is a fascinating, you know, people.

So funny people say, how can you go out and be social and have everybody drinking? You don’t drink and you watch everybody else get drunk. You don’t need a drink. That is all the entertainment that you need is to watch everybody shift in change their, their energy, their, their, what they say, their demeanor, and their attitude.

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Lane: Yeah, that the change in personality is what we call it. The twisted emotions the dysregulation that quickly occurs as a result of sticking alcohol and drugs into your person, your being as you were talking, I was thinking about how, you know, you have these two kids at home and you put down alcohol pre-pandemic, and what a godsend that is.

So you could be a hundred percent present with them. I mean, it’s been a freaking nightmare and here we are again, facing this, like unknown again. Do you think your kids recognize, like, do they seem like pre? Drink control drinking. I’m going to drink, like, do they see a difference between Ben and now, do you think? All About Alcohol-Free Living and Human Design

And it’s been weird because we’ve been in COVID but do you think they recognize it? Well, we talk about it a lot because your kids are, your kids are nine and 12, so they’re a little bit older.

Lauren: I have a 12, I have a very communicative, very emotionally charged household. So. In many ways, we probably talk to them about things that are above their level, you know, I guess, compared to what other parents do.

But I was just raised in a very communicative, like, we’re going to talk about our feelings, we’re going to like share all the things kind of house. So they, and I want them to know, and I want to be transparent with them, especially as they get to the age where that’s going to start to be something that is within them.

Grasp or that they see friends doing or they see. And so we talk about like, oh, it’s been this amount of time and I’m so proud of myself. And they’re like, are you ever going to drink again? Or what about this? Do you think you’ll have a drink for that? So I do think that I will have a drink again.

Lane: I don’t, I don’t see that freaks me out too.

Lauren: I’m like, Lord, it breaks me out to no, it does because I have a good friend who, who kind of has had a parallel journey. And so she also went alcohol-free for a long period of time and then felt, you know what, I’m going to have a drink. I’m fine. And within two weeks was daily drinking again and is now in recovery.

It now has a sponsor now because she said, I could not believe that after all this time. And she read this naked mind and like, you know, she was really into all in it. And so I do have that in my mind that, and then I have this stupid and maybe it’s not stupid of, well, now I have two years. I don’t want to ruin it.

I can’t picture myself never drinking again. I would love to be the person who has a drink four times a year at it like a special celebration. You know, I’m going to have a glass of champagne for my birthday. It’s going to be my 20th wedding anniversary. This June, my husband and I, God willing are going to go on a trip somewhere I would love to on our anniversary, have a little clink of like we’ve made.

But then, on the other hand, is that not who I am anymore? Do I indicate this is so good right here?

Lane: This is so good because I’m thinking, so from this perspective, I’m like, does it really matter that you have champagne in that glass? If you’re celebrating your lives together, it could be a frigging cup of coffee,

Lauren: like I know, but that’s how.

What’s the word I’m looking for. That’s how immersed. Yeah. Drinking is in our culture, in our society that you can, can you have a celebration? Meanwhile, I’ve made it through two new years. Dozens of birthday parties, big gatherings without questioning, having a drink, like it never entered my mind. And so, I don’t know, stay tuned.

I’m going to be right here, cheering you on.

Lane: You know, when somebody on my path finds recovery, it’s opening to spirituality like that knock is so loud that you can’t ignore it. And. You know, I’m so I feel so blessed because it’s been, it’s become my normal to like, talk about the ocean of yum and feel centered and pray and meditate.

And I believe that everyone has their own path that they’re going to find. Now, I don’t know if, like, what are you doing? In your daily life to keep your sanity, like before we got on your T you’re kind of joking around you’re you are owning, you know, you’re chanting. Is that like a part of your daily practice?

What does your practice look like to keep that internal voice? Is that chatter silent?

Lauren: So the internal voice does not shatter. Does that ever go away? But what I would say is that I have been on this more spiritual, mindful, higher consciousness path. It feels like all my life, it feels like from a young age, I prayed without any.

But he taught me to do that without modeling of direct communication. At that point, it was, it was God that I spoke to and asked for things. I had multiple. Incidences that felt very abnormal, very unusual in terms of just like spiritual things, having dreams, and then things coming true. Knowing that people were going to pass and then it coming to fruition.

Seeing things, hearing things, you know, I don’t know how to woo all of ’em all the audience is, but you can, you can bring it on.

Lane: It’s fine. So, that would be your clear audio clear center. Like your you’ve got your Claire’s turned on. Yes. Yeah.

Lauren: Knowing at the time what that was. And so, you know, as I moved through adulthood and, and.

It’s actually really funny now that I’m thinking about it. So it felt like during motherhood, the beginning parts of motherhood, all of that was gone because it was, I was singularly focused on keeping these beings alive that I was now in charge of with no direction, or manual help. You know, it’s just, it happens. All About Alcohol-Free Living and Human Design

But, leading up to that, I felt very connected. And so it really wasn’t until my young. I was sort of at that four to five-year-old, like, okay, like you’re a full formed being like I don’t have to watch everything thing every single second that I really stepped back onto the spiritual path in a big way.

I meditate daily. I prioritize my self-care, whether it be walking every day or listening to a podcast or finding time for quiet. I really see myself as an individual and I think that that has been a big shift for me. For a while. I did lose my identity to being only a mother and not feeling the ability to not feeling empowered, not feeling entitled to have my own Lauren self space.

And so. Realizing that it was not just okay, but that it was incredibly beneficial to me and all the people around me that I am me without all the other labels is huge, just reframe of spirituality for me.

Lane: And you brought this into your work.

Lauren: Yeah. So yeah, I have, so my background is in marketing and I’m a manifesting generator and human designer, which I know we’re going to talk about.

But what that means is that many of us have this long and windy path where we love all the things that are multi-passionate change. Pivots have lots of different detours. And so. Marketing to wellness, to spiritual business coaching. All About Alcohol-Free Living and Human Design

Lane: Okay. Let’s talk about, cause it’s some of our friends listening are not going to know what a generator is and your generator and a manifesting.

You’re a manifesto, okay?

Lauren: A manifestor manifesting generator. You’re a manifesting.

Lane: See, I don’t even know this lingo. It’s just too much for me. I know. Human design is one area that I have not even attempted to get involved in because there’s so complex. Yeah. I feel like it’s complex and I’m usually really good at being able to get into a system.

I don’t know what else to call it a system and astrology I can get in there and figure it out. And I’ve got it. You know, numbers, numerology I can get in there. But human design. I’m like, Hm, I’m just going to put that over there. And I’m going to listen to people. So share a little more about this experience and what it brings to your life.

If you are to know it or understand it.

Lauren: Human design. Yeah.

Lane: Yeah. Just start there and then we’ll go into this manifesto generator thing. Yes, absolutely.

Lauren: And I totally understand what you’re saying. And I hear that from a lot of people and I also think a lot of people. Like any other modality, try to dive in and find the hacks and the shortcuts.

And, so there are a lot of different ways. And I just like to extend that grace, to anybody who is playing with the system, because there are a lot of nuances and there’s a lot of Burbage that for me, is complete, does not resonate, and does not work in my brain. So a lot of what I do. Synthesize the information and just try to make it understandable to me and relatable to other people.

So human design is called the science of differentiation. It is based on four different ancient pearls of wisdom, which is astrology. And there’s an element of the chakra system. There’s an element of eating and also. Kabbalah and the tree of life. So there’s these. Yeah.

Lane: So like, I know all of those systems, but when you layer them, I’m like, it’s yeah, it’s too complex.

Like, like, why would you do this? Like I know, I know.

Lauren: Well, and the reason, I mean, so the, the founder, Ron, who was on Baeza supposedly, and basically had. The multi-day download of all this information and is how the human design came to be. But, and, and there absolutely are ways to make it more streamlined, more simple.

So if you’re interested, don’t, don’t give up quite yet. If it’s something that you’re feeling attached to. So it’s based on this idea that we are all these very different, unique individual. And there is no one right way to do anything, but there is a way that is best for you based on your unique design.

So, you know, you can think about the Enneagram or one of these other self-discovery modalities, the differences that it is, these four wisdoms, and then they pull in pieces of energy I’m conditioning and. And so you have a few different types, there are five different energy types, and that’s sort of the top of the pyramid.

And then from there, it goes down into strategy, which is how you engage with the world. From an energetic perspective, you go into your inner authority, which is the way that you’re meant to make decisions because we’re not all. To make decisions the same way. And then you can go into the centers. So there’s nine centers in human design and these centers are either open or closed.

And that’s all about like how energy flows and how you interact with other people. There’s profile there’s channels, there are gates, there’s all these different layers. So I totally understand. And it was. Definitely overwhelming to start with, but as you dig into it, you find what resonates with you. And it’s just a really beautiful system for self-discovery for self-compassion for authenticity.

It’s about finding ease, which might feel counter intuitive, because it feels complicated, but I can help any answer any questions that people have to make it more simple.

Lane: Well, that’s the thing you can’t go alone on this journey. Like you gotta have somebody to kind of guide you through the forest. I can’t, I think I’m a manifester.

You’re going to have to tell me more. So let’s get, I just want to, you’re a genre no, a manifesto generator and a manifesting generator besting.

Lauren: So that’s a hybrid between a manifest. And a generator most I know, I know it’s a lot. And so first of all, I did want to tell people that it is based on birth date, exact time and location.

So that’s the astrological component because it’s whatever was happening in the stars at the moment, which give you this print and also three months before, but I don’t want to go.

Lane: I don’t want to get off the rounds here. Don’t go there. Lauren. It’s too much. So the five different energy types are a generation.

Lauren: And a manifesting generator, which have a lot of similarities, but also some differences. Then there is a manifestor, which is the third type of projector and a reflector. So everybody is one of those five energy types. And that really is like the essence of your energy, who you are your aura as an energetic.

Lane: Okay. So you just said the word aura, which makes me crazy, was like aura. I don’t know the word. I just have resistance around it, even though I know I have it. Right. Like I study heart math. So I know this, the length of my aura. I understand. Like, but just, I don’t know the words I go like that every time I hear it.

Lauren: Popularized like many things in spirituality, and then it becomes something where you need to know what it is. And is it like, it becomes like this hierarchy? Am I this color or is it look like, right? So the way that human design just talks about the aura is not in terms of color, but more in terms of its essence. All About Alcohol-Free Living and Human Design

So is it open and enveloping? Is it penetrating? Is it, you know, w repelling, is it reflective? So that’s a different way of looking at it. Okay. Of course, of course.

Lane: Now, how long have you been doing this?

Lauren: Gosh, so pre-alcohol-free life, pre-alcohol-free life pre-COVID, so four. Okay.

Lane: So I just want to bring this back around to the alcohol-free stuff, right?

So was there a difference in your essence when you put down alcohol in your being right, did you become more clear as your manifesting generator? Or right. Like, did you gain access to other knowledge that you didn’t have access to you because you were drinking without question?

Lauren: I consider myself someone that has a channeling connection.

And so that. Ability to, to know and trust and receive is off the charts in contradiction to the, the me before that. Medicated dull, cloudy pushing away anything that I thought was happening and it’s not that I ever consciously thought, okay, well, I’m going to have a drink because I don’t want to deal with this thing that I think is happening.

But separating from alcohol, all of these other things have been like illuminated and gotten massively. For brighter or brighter? Clearer.

Lane: Brighter. Yeah. It’s like easier to manage, I guess.

Lauren: Yeah, it’s fine. Tuning a frequency is another way that I’ve heard people sort of describe it. It’s like you’re on the radio station or, you know, back in the day when the TV had a knob and you’re just like trying to get it to a different frequency. Yes.

Lane: That’s 100%. Okay. So manifesting generator, how does that.

What does that do in the world? What, what does this type do? What do they represent?

Lauren: So a manifesting generator is again, essentially a generator, which means it is this creator, this builder. This love to work. This work life love very strong connection. We’re sort of these like buzzy energy beings that like can like race around.

And a lot of the, the, the verbs, a lot of the words that you hear today That are geared for success are built on generator words. So it’s like that hustle and that bustle and that grind are all things that we as generators and manifesting generators love to do. We are sacred beings. Again, I know that’s getting a little into the details, but generators and manifesting generators are the only two of the five types that have a defined sacral, which means, again, that very strong vitality and power and creation, a manifesting generator is one that is more multi-passionate, it’s more likely if you are an mg that you have had.

A lot of different things that you love to do. You love to have a lot of balls in the air, a lot of spinning plates, I call it like the energy hummingbird where it’s, I love this and I want to do this. And I want to do that. And multiple revenue streams, and we want to do all these things. And it is often this nonlinear path, which in some ways has, depending on the conditioning that you’ve taken in.

You could feel like you are flaky, you could feel like you’re non-committal you could feel like I keep changing my mind. You could feel a lot of things about you when there’s a language that says you should pick one thing that you love and do that forever. Like that is a nightmare to an mg. Like it’s like, no, no, no, that is not me at all All About Alcohol-Free Living and Human Design

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I’m going to do this today and I’m going to do that tomorrow. And yeah, we’re really just meant to do what we love and pick a little bit and share it. And so our life’s work does not look like anybody else’s because it is not. Steady path of one ladder wrong after another it’s pulling and weaving together all of our experiences to create something new, which is incredibly exciting.

Lane: And also a little bit like the wild, wild west, you know, you’re out there doing it, waving a flag.

Lauren: That’s right. That’s right. That’s really great.

Lane: When you decided to. You made that choice of not drinking and you knew everything that you knew about yourself. And you know that you’re this channel that can hear, see what are your clears when you, you hear you see,

Lauren: I know I feel no you’re so you’re clear sentience right now clear.

Lane: So all of this makes you. Right. Every little part of you and what I love about recovery, I’m just going to name it right now. Recovery alcohol-free is that you have an opportunity just like I have an opportunity to share every part of myself, whereas before you were drinking and you weren’t really channeling.

You maybe we’re doing this great work with human design, but you probably weren’t bringing your entire self. And that is one of the biggest assets that we have when we just change one action. And that action is putting down a drink. And for our listeners out there, I, I want you to share, like, what was the hardest.

Mo, what was a hard moment that you can look back on over the last two years, but you’re so grateful that you did not pick up a drink.

Lauren: Gosh, there’s been a lot of hard moments. I mean, to be honest, you know, I, we’re so fortunate for our health, for our. Financial security for so many things that literally are life and death for people every single day. And so I, I think. First of all. I think that when you are not drinking, when I am not drinking, it is much easier for me to recognize that to begin with.

It is much easier for me to find gratitude because I am not in the shame spiral that I used to live in. When I was drinking, it was. A pity party was what was me? Why did I do that? What’s wrong with me, blah, blah, blah. You know, all of that shame and guilt that I, that I felt about myself when it seemed like nobody else bothered anybody else, nobody else was being affected.

Why was I, why was I different? What was wrong with me that I had this relationship that I knew I had to break up from? You know, it’s not. It’s not something, most people feel comfortable talking about because you’re either drinking and it’s so social and it’s so fun or. You’re like the odd one. You’re the weirdo.

You’re like the grownup who doesn’t drink, but which doesn’t have a drinking problem. Right. It’s a terrible thing. And I was guilty of looking at people who weren’t drinking and pressure. Why aren’t you drinking? Come on. Just try and just have some fun. And I couldn’t understand because I had never been modeled to me that you can be a fully formed.

Fun. Amazing, incredible life human experience person without having alcohol. Like you don’t need that to be, to be basically. And so I would say that all of the nondrinking, just every single time that I didn’t think about it and later on in reflection would think to myself. Wow. I didn’t even think about having a.

Just builds a well of resiliency and confidence and capability that I never knew I had. I never, I have been through a lot of trauma in my life, starting at a young age all the way up through a few weeks ago. I think a few weeks ago, my husband had a heart attack at 40. And thank you. So when you’re like name something in the past two years, I’m like, how about in the past?

Lane: Yeah. That’s, that’s

Lauren: huge. It’s huge. And it’s so crazy because of our two responses to the heart attack, his response, and my response. I’m really learning. And I know that there’s future work in there for me about my trauma-informed response and reaction and his non-trauma-informed response and reaction is.

I mean, it’s like a masterclass of like differentiation it’s it’s insane. And so, yeah, at 44 he was at the gym. Started not feeling well, chest pain, chest pressure, no ever, never an experience like this before called me. I don’t feel good. I think I’m going to have them call the ambulance to calling the ambulance, to getting to the hospital, to getting admitted to the next.

We need to do an emergency angioplasty because he had a hundred percent blockage and one of his arteries, then they had to go in two days later because he had a 70% blockage in another artery who knew there were only three arteries in the heart. We didn’t know that. So we learned a lot about the body, but he absolutely could have gone into cardiac or.

And died at any moment. And we had no idea the risk that he was, and I never considered drinking.

Lane: Th that’s it right there. Right. There was no thought, no, not taking a drink over this. And then the other side of that is can you imagine if you had been.

Lauren: Right. If I was drinking, I would have come home and, and, and had drinking and felt terrible and cried myself to sleep even more and been, not in my right mind and not in my body.

And instead I was obviously very scared. I was obviously very upset, but I was able to find center, like you were saying earlier, I was able to find the truth. It was hard for me to find the truth when I was doing. The truth was not clear. And now I might not like the truth, but I know it. I know what it is now.

And that’s an amazing place to be. Yeah.

Lane: Thank you for sharing that your moment. Yeah, we don’t have to drink. Like we, we just don’t have to drink through anything. That’s really powerful that you shared that.

Lauren: And I think I just want to also share it to me cause I have. You know, I live in a community in a population where most, everybody drinks very often.

And if that is your situation, I’m also sharing that you can still be in the community with people. And it is weird the first few times or the first milestones and people ask you. Eventually they forget about you and they get back to their own life. So you’re not the freak show for that long of a period of time.

And instead people start coming out of the woodwork. DM-ing messaging. I’d love to hear about your experience. This is something that I’ve been thinking about. There are so many people out there that are also considering it. So if that’s something like if you feel social pressure, which I always did, there is also a way to navigate that.

Lane: You just never know, who’s looking to stop drinking. Who’s curious about it. When I came screaming out of the closet, so to speak when COVID hit about my recovery, I had people messaging me like what my students, and students were sending me messages and emails. And I was like, oh, it was such a strange moment, but I couldn’t, I had to share it.

Right. Like, okay. Enough of the shame enough. Picture of you’re the weirdo. You’re different. Like, no, I’m not in that regard. I mean, I am, but I’m not so, oh, Lauren, I think I want to know more about human design. Do you want to come back for another

Lauren: show? I would love to. Yeah. And you have to send me your information and then I can tell you all about your design.

Lane: So overwhelming. I’m just like, whoa, wait a minute.

Lauren: I promise I will keep it like super, super safe, super high level, super actionable.

Lane: I think, you know what I’m really interested in though. Like maybe this is another app. This’ll be another episode is like the channeling. I’m like, oh, I need.

Lauren: Yeah, everybody else.

That’s another thing. I think everybody can be a channel. Everybody can connect to their higher soul to their, to their guides, to other people. I think that that’s another thing that has been put on this very specific pedestal of a certain type of person can be that level or that way. Spirituality. All About Alcohol-Free Living and Human Design I feel like no, everybody can do that.

Everybody can. Why would we not all have the ability if we want to connect to source?

Lane: Yeah, it’s great. So we’ll talk after the show and we’ll have you back on, which makes me so excited. Thank you for being here and hosting the show with me. It’s just been delightful, hearing your story and sharing you with our listeners today.

Lauren: All thank you so much for having me. It’s funny that this is a place that I’ve arrived and I’m just so grateful that I have, and that I have the opportunity to share. And, I truly feel like if one person hears and knows that they can do it, that is literally the biggest blessing.

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